OlympIQ Society/OLYMPIQ Society: Introduction to Some of the Membership

OlympIQ Society was founded on January 1, 2001, by Dr. Evangelos Katsioulis as a high-IQ society with a rarity at or above IQ 175 SD 15 (Wechsler scale)/IQ 180 SD 16 (Stanford-Binet scale)/IQ 220 SD 24 (Cattell scale). This means a theoretical rarity of 1 out of 3,500,000 people out of the unselected general population at a minimum for qualification.* Dr. Benoit Desjardins, MD, PhD is a Physician. Christopher Philip Harding is the Founder of The International Society for Philosophical Enquiry. Entemake Aman (阿曼) is an undergraduate student in physics. Erik Haereid is an Actuarial Scientist. Nathan “Nth” Bar-Fields is a driving force behind Elysian Trust. Rickard Sagirbay is a Turkish author who has written on the soul. You can find these individuals in all walks of life and professional development. Here we talk about the OlympIQ Society and answer some questions about the high-IQ communities.*

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: You have been scoring high on tests of intelligence and joined the OlympIQ Society. I want to focus on some short-form questions here with a reasonable response length. What is the feeling of joining an extremely exclusive high-IQ society versus joining one of more ordinary rarity cutoffs?

Benoit Desjardin, MD, PhD, FAHA, FACR: Being able to join elite exclusive societies is a great source of pride. People like to feel special in their own way, as opposed to being just one of 8 billion people on earth.

Christopher Harding: For me the hope of meeting better people, without of course any certainty.

Entemake Aman (阿曼): The IQ of all members of Olympiq society is between 180 and 190! We almost represent the highest IQ in the world! It gives me the feeling that there are super-geniuses in it! It’s easy to find confidants, chat with them very happy, relaxed! In the real world, I may never meet people with an IQ of more than 180 in my life. It’s hard to find a confidant and exchange ideas with people in real life. I’m honoured to be a member of Olympiq society. It has given me a lot of things that I can’t get in my life! When I joined Olympiq society, I felt that there was no difficult problem in the world, which brought me a strong sense of self-confidence!

Erik Haereid: I am honoured, but the feeling is not different. Most members are inactive. I think the experience of being members of this society would change if I got to know and communicated more deeply with some of the members. But as an introvert, it’s not that easy either.

Nathan “Nth” Bar-Fields: I joined OlympIQ because I thought it could be a potential recruiting ground for spectacular talent for my company and future projects. I wasn’t particularly interested in being known as a member myself. In fact, my being a member will likely come as a surprise to many when they read this.

Rickard Sagirbay: The feeling was of satisfaction and joy in terms of being able to locate your peers, intellectual exchange, and further, the posts in the forums are usually of very high quality in regards to scientific conduct. To sum this up a higher quality of conversations and gain new knowledge. Of course, if you join a society with ordinary cut-offs as you put it, then the conversations and intellectual stimuli will usually be at the same level as well.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Do you feel part of a community in joining such a society as OlympIQ Society?

Benoit Desjardin, MD, PhD, FAHA, FACR: I am a member of many societies, most of them scientific societies. Each society regroups people of similar training or skills or interests. Each society is a community exchanging information on specific topics of interest. I feel part of many different small communities.

Christopher Harding: Yes, but again one must be cautious, since individuality is an offsetting factor marred by the constraint on numbers: And of course one can never know the outcome in advance let alone have any hope for optimization of any proposals.

Entemake Aman (阿曼): I think it’s a part of my community, because it’s more interesting for people with similar IQ to exchange ideas! If we have a party in the Olympiq society in the future, it will be even better! It’s one of the greatest honours of my life for me to join Olympiq society! How exciting and proud it is to be in the same community with some of the smartest people in the world! I hope this community has a group chat app that can be easily contacted. If so, it would be better!

Erik Haereid: Well, no, not especially. But I hope to feel that way in the future. The community needs an icebreaker; a proactive, extrovert person that can handle and accept the many different personalities and attitudes. I am certainly not that type, unfortunately. It’s about feeling safe and invited, too. And about meeting in the center of joint ideas and thoughts. The community needs a leader that can handle the members, and respect and exploit each one.

Nathan “Nth” Bar-Fields: As far as I am aware there is no community to speak of. No group discussions for members or interactions of any kind. It’s just a vanity page.

Rickard Sagirbay: Yes, I do. 

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: If the general view is most of the societies function as directories of members or social societies, what is the hope for an expanded vision of the high-IQ societies?

Benoit Desjardin, MD, PhD, FAHA, FACR: I think the current vision is just fine. I use high-IQ societies as a source of information on interesting developments in different fields that might be outside my own scientific fields. I also get access once in a while to puzzles that are challenging and offer intellectual distractions from my daily work.

Christopher Harding: Effectively none! One must become conditioned by the reality that life’s selectivity is not determined by a single trait.

Entemake Aman (阿曼): High IQ association can bring us intelligence sharing, communication, networking! Of course, I hope the society can pay attention to talents, help them financially, let them go to world-famous schools, and make contributions to the world with their intelligence above 180, such as winning the Nobel prize!

Erik Haereid: With a broad-minded woman or man in charge that know how to activate a mixture of complex ideas and thoughts, we could get something more out of it than just a directory.

My experience is that most deep thinkers lack sufficient emotional contact to launch a fruitful process, involving people to cooperate and find answers to whatever one focuses on. It’s about an inner emotional balance, that makes you endure other people’s thoughts, opinions and feelings.

Nathan “Nth” Bar-Fields: I’m already doing it with Elysian Trust. We actually are finding and supporting neurodivergent talent in underserved populations. High IQ clubs always say that is what they are going to do but it never happens. Ever.

Rickard Sagirbay: I believe the hope is to try to grow both from an intellectual standpoint of view, and also emotional maturity. I also think it is important to promote the societies further by installing events, dialogues among its members, even meetings, either live or by for example zoom. Also, by talking to you I am already expanding the vision of the societies beyond its borders since it’s going out to the public. My conclusion is that the most optimal strategy in the future, to make the societies grow, is to bring its peers together as much as possible, thus engaging them to come up with new ideas, also being able to recommend other potentially qualifying members. The societies that are the most successful in this endeavour, might be the producers of future Nobel laureates.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: What are some practical examples of things high-IQ societies can do now – to help solve some worldwide problems? 

Benoit Desjardin, MD, PhD, FAHA, FACR: Worldwide problems won’t get solved by extraordinarily smart people. They will get solved by teams of very smart educated people who have devoted a few decades of their lives working on a very focused area or problem. High-IQ societies could help by promoting scientific literacy and critical thinking abilities, two areas in very short supply in the world today (especially in the US).

Christopher Harding: No: Solutions are always embedded in the context which gives rise to them; rising out of the context is always a bit of a stretch!

Entemake Aman (阿曼): Tao Zhexian has an IQ of 180 and won the fields award. Da Vinci and Descartes also had 180 IQ, also made a famous thing! I think Olympiq society should be paid attention to by the world. The high IQ association should receive donations from the society or help from big men. It should give those learning resources with IQ above 180 to go to the top 50 famous schools in the world, and let them make contributions to the world and give full play to their IQ above 180! If you have this idea, please contact my box: entemaholmes123@sina.com.

Erik Haereid: Traditional science is based on empirics, and is to a lesser extent a tool to create ideas than proving or disproving theories; the culture is quite strict. It’s a stimulation of existing experiences rather than an inspiration to new ones. We need more creative ideas concerning human development, even though they today seem impossible. We need to pinpoint common goals that give all humans opportunities and prosperity. And to depart from conservative ways of forcing humans into inconvenient collaborations, which frequently is a consequence of social polarization and hierarchization. Establishing such goals and ideas, is one thing members of high IQ societies can do.

Every war and conflict is based on some individual internal turmoil, some self-contradictory thoughts and feelings about how things are and should be, and the reactions shape the future. To create ideas and feelings that make everyone see that the optimization of their lives is based on win-win and not win-lose situations, could and should be a task and an obligation for the very intelligent ones.

The future self-images, individually, as groups and globally, are more than anything else the most important issue as to human evolution. If you are in balance with yourself and your surroundings, you will act optimal and effective. Our self-perception, in every way we picture ourselves, is basic for our drives, needs, plans and actions. When people are more concerned about titles and achievements in the context of what other people like and adore, because their drive is based on being adored, because they lack being adored, we are in a nihilistic circulation. We need to be loved and recognized, not because we replicate but because we are different from each other.

Nathan “Nth” Bar-Fields: Become an actual proprietary think tank would be the simplest. However, that will require something more than just IQ as a screening tool for participation. Social intelligence—or rather its lack thereof—will result in such an endeavour failing epically, if it isn’t screened for in its participants. It’s just impossible to do anything productively collaborative without that ingredient, no matter the average IQ of the group in question.

I have other ideas but I’d rather execute them through Elysian Trust, as I know they will actually manifest that way. 

Rickard Sagirbay: That is a very solid and interesting question indeed Scott. I would argue, that some of the main objectives could be to try to broaden the perspectives of the masses. This could be done in a variety of ways, such as trying to get more relevant and true information delivered out to the public, based on the latest science. Being more active in media campaigns and interviews, as now. I think the intellectual communication and possible brainstorming among its members, is of uttermost importance. To come up with ideas on how to reach influential people. What other alternative ways of the education system could we contribute to creating for the future? What is the value of “learning how to learn”?

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: How have you been working to advance some of these wider visions and projects of the high-IQ communities, including OlympIQ Society?

Benoit Desjardin, MD, PhD, FAHA, FACR: I have not been working towards that goal. I’m too busy working 100h+/week in my own scientific fields.

Christopher Harding: I have not: I leave this to those who have trays missing in me. Like all intelligent people I lack certainty.

Entemake Aman (阿曼): I will contact Olympiq members by email or Facebook, and I will write on my resume that I am a member of Olympiq Society (IQ180+). If Olympiq society is listed in international magazines and news and is famous in the world, we may have a higher chance to give full play to our 180 plus intelligence quotient to solve the world’s problems! If you can help our world-famous schools with more than 180 IQ, please contact my email: entemaholmes123@sina.com.

Erik Haereid: I have to admit that I have not done much to do that. I write and publish some of my opinions, but do also have some kind of infuriating approach that some don’t find appealing. I have to improve that. It’s about finding one’s personal expression that preserves yourself and suits others.

Nathan “Nth” Bar-Fields: Big time.  Elysian Trust broke down what were the fundamental things “genius projects” and “geniuses” needed to level up, especially if they came from backgrounds that had little to no resources:  Money, professional networking opportunities, academic support, job opportunities, and social support. We created a grant writing service for the money issue and raised a little over $20,000,000 for clients.  Our discussion groups—which are all adamant about civility—have resulted in a wide variety of jobs, funding, new companies, marriages, and so on, for members.  We actually are a community, although the pandemic has hurt many of us and the organization itself pretty hard in 2020.  We are rebuilding and rebranding now, but you can read about it here.

http://www.elysiantrust.org/about-us/

Rickard Sagirbay: Yes, I have been conducting private research and investigations. The purpose of this was to promote intelligence, and brain health by the latest discoveries in Neuroscience. I have been using something called BrainHQ for approximately 251 days, and I accumulated 34.327 points (it’s a lot). This ingenious app was invented by the eminent neuroscientist Michael Merzenich, a winner of the Kavli Prize. I’ve been publishing some papers about this app on my FB page. This is the way I have promoted the ideals of society, by constantly encouraging others to nurture their brains. Further, I have been writing life quotes, poems, and reviews of movies, historical people. 

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Everyone, thank you very much for the opportunity and your time to talk about the OlympIQ Society.

*High range testing (HRT) should be taken with honest skepticism grounded in the limited empirical development of the field at present, even in spite of honest and sincere efforts. If a higher general intelligence score, then the greater the variability in, and margin of error in, the general intelligence scores because of the greater rarity in the population.

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The current full membership of the OlympIQ Society: Dr. Evangelos G. Katsioulis, MD, MSc, PhD, Bart Miles, Laura N. Kochen, D.X.J., Christophe Dodos, Steve Schuessler, George Ch. Petasis, A.F., Jonas Högberg, Mari Takishita, J. W., Thomas B., Jan Willem Versluis, Alexander Prata Maluf, Dr. Christopher Philip Harding, Oliver Q., Wayne Zhang, Martin Tobias Lithner, Miguel Angel Soto-Miranda, M.D., Hever Horacio Arreola Gutierrez, Wang Peng, Takahiro Kitagawa, Andreas Andersson, Lee HanKyung, M.D., Julio Machado, Misaki Ota, Erik Hæreid, Santanu Sengupta, Qiao Hansheng, Dr. Benoit Desjardins, MD, PhD, Wen-Chin Sui, Yaron Mirelman, JMoriarty, Fan Yiwen, Zhibin Zhang (张智彬), Chen Anping, Dr. Yasunobu Egawa, Ph.D., Raymond Walbrecq, Junlong Li（李俊龙, Prof. Vernon M. Neppe MD, PhD, Nth Bar-Fields, Susumu Ota, Li Shimin, Marios Prodromou, Rickard Sagirbay, Dan Liu (刘丹), YoungHoon Bryan Kim (김영훈), W. C., Jo Christopher Montalban Resquites, Entemake Aman, Daniel Shea, Yaniv Hozez, Ζeu Ζoug（宗震), Sio, and Mizuki Tomaiwa.

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