Prof. Shmuel “Sam” Vaknin (YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Amazon, LinkedIn, Google Scholar) is the author of Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited (Amazon) and After the Rain: How the West Lost the East (Amazon) as well as many other books and ebooks about topics in psychology, relationships, philosophy,
economics, international affairs, and award-winning short fiction. He was
Senior Business Correspondent for United Press International (February,
2001 – April, 2003), CEO of Narcissus Publications (April, 1997 –
April 2013), Editor-in-Chief of Global Politician (January, 2011 -), a
columnist for PopMatters, eBookWeb, Bellaonline, and Central Europe Review, an
editor for The Open Directory and Suite101 (Categories: Mental Health and
Central East Europe), and a contributor to Middle East Times, a contributing
writer to The American Chronicle Media Group, Columnist and Analyst for Nova
Makedonija, Fokus, and Kapital, Founding Analyst of The Analyst Network, former
president of the Israeli chapter of the Unification Church’s Professors for
World Peace Academy, and served in the Israeli Defense Forces (1979-1982). He
has been awarded Israel’s Council of Culture and Art Prize for Maiden Prose
(1997), The Rotary Club Award for Social Studies (1976), and the Bilateral
Relations Studies Award of the American Embassy in Israel (1978), among other
awards. He is Visiting Professor of Psychology, Southern Federal University, Rostov-on-Don, Russia (September,
2017 to present), Professor of Finance and Psychology in SIAS-CIAPS
(Centre for International Advanced and Professional Studies) (April, 2012 to present), a Senior
Correspondent for New York Daily Sun, and Columnist for Allied Newspapers Group
(January, 2015 – Present). He lives in Skopje, North Macedonia with his
wife, Lidija Rangelovska. Here we talk about giftedness and IQ.
*Previous interviews listed chronologically after interview.*
Scott
Douglas Jacobsen: You have been measured three times with a high IQ, an
understatement.[1] An
IQ between 180 and 190, between ages 9 and 35. You referred to this in
some writings, in passing, including pages 2[2],
3[3],
4[4],
5[5],
and 7[6],
of epigrams, in an interview with Richard Grannon (2018), with Smashwords (2014),
and on a YouTube video answering viewer questions[7].
It has been mentioned in an article by Gavin Haynes (2016), too. With the IQ
scores of 185 at age 9, 180 in the army at age 25, and 190 in prison at age 35
(vakninsamnarcissist, 2018; RICHARD GRANNON, 2018), presumably on a standard
deviation of 15, what was the reaction of family, friends, peers, community,
even the psychometricians or psychologists administering the tests each
time?
Prof. Shmuel “Sam” Vaknin: First, let me clarify than any
result above 160 (some say, 140) is not normatively validated: it is rather
arbitrary and meaningless because there are so few people to compare with (the
sample is way too small). Matrix IQ tests are better at validating higher
results, though.
Everyone always loathed me. I am a sadist, so from a very early
age, I have leveraged my IQ to taunt people, hold them in contempt, and
humiliate them. This did not endear obnoxious me to anyone. My own teachers
sought to undermine my academic career, peers shunned or attempted to bully me
(they failed), my mother detested me, my father pendulated between being
awe-struck and being repelled by me. Both my parents beat me to an inch of my
life every single day for 12 years.
Jacobsen: To you, as a scientific person, what defines
intelligence?
Vaknin: Anything that endows an individual with a comparative advantage at
performing a complex task constitutes intelligence. In this sense, viruses
reify intelligence, they are intelligent. Human intelligence, though, is
versatile and the tasks are usually far more complex than anything a virus
might need to tackle.
Jacobsen: What defines IQ or Intelligence Quotient?
Vaknin: The ability to perform a set of mostly – but not only – analytical
assignments corresponding to an age-appropriate average. So, if a 10 year old
copes well with the tasks that are the bread and butter of an 18 years old, he
scores 180 IQ.
IQ measures an exceedingly narrow set of skills and mental
functions. There are many types of intelligence – for example: musical
intelligence – not captured by any IQ test.
Jacobsen: What defines giftedness, to you? Even though, formal
definitions exist.[8]
Vaknin: Giftedness resembles autism very much: it is the ability to
accomplish tasks inordinately well or fast by focusing on them to the exclusion
of all else and by mobilizing all the mental resources at the disposal of the
gifted person.
Obviously, people gravitate to what they do well. Gifted people
have certain propensities and talents to start with and these probably reflect
brain abnormalities of one kind or another.
Jacobsen: Inter-relating the previous three questions, what
separates intelligence from IQ from giftedness, i.e., separates each from one
another?
Vaknin: IQ is a narrow measure of highly specific types of intelligence and
is not necessarily related to giftedness. Gifted people invest themselves with
a laser-focus to effect change in their environment conducive to the speedy
completion of highly specific tasks.
Jacobsen: What defines genius?
Vaknin: Genius is the ability to discern two things: 1. What is missing
(lacunas) 2. Synoptic connections.
The genius surveys the world and completes it by conjuring up
novelty (i.e., by creating). S/he also spots hidden relatedness between
ostensibly disparate phenomena or data.
Jacobsen: How does genius differentiate from intelligence, IQ, and
giftedness?
Vaknin: A genius can have an average IQ or even not be analytically very
intelligent (not be an intellectual). Some craftsmen are geniuses. Musicians,
athletes, even politicians.
Jacobsen: What happens to most prodigies, or adults with
exceptionally, profoundly, or unmeasurably high IQ?
Vaknin: A majority of them end badly. IQ is a good predictor of academic
accomplishments, but not much else. Character, upbringing, mental illness,
genetics, nurture, the environment (including the physical environment), sexual
and romantic history matter much more than IQ.
Many “geniuses” with a high IQ (Mensa types) are dysfunctional and
deficient when it comes to life, intimacy, relationships, and social skills.
Additionally, as Eysenck had correctly observed, creativity is often linked to
psychoticism.
Jacobsen: What are the optimal things for raising gifted
children and prodigies, and for resuscitating drifting adults with exceptionally,
profoundly, or unmeasurably high IQ, if at all possible, to productive and
healthy lives?
Vaknin: All interventions are somewhat effective only during childhood and
adolescence, up to age 21. Afterwards, it is an uphill battle.
The most crucial thing is to never remove the gifted child from his
peer group (as was done to me). I am also dead set against academic shortcuts.
The gifted child should follow the same path as everybody else but
feed his voracious mind with extracurricular enrichment programs and materials.
Jacobsen: Who seem like the greatest geniuses in history to
you?
Vaknin: The usual suspects: Einstein, Newton, Freud, da Vinci, other
polymaths who had upended every discipline or field that they had turned their
scintillating minds to.
Jacobsen: Thank you for the opportunity and your time, Professor
Vaknin.
Vaknin: The opportunity is all mine.
References
Hayne, G. (2016, September 8). I Spent a Day Trying to Get to Know
a Real-Life Narcissist. Vice. https://www.vice.com/en/article/nney4k/narcissism-interview-chosen-ones-gavin-haynes.
National Association for Gifted Children. (2019). A
Definition of Giftedness that Guides Best Practice. https://www.nagc.org/sites/default/files/Position%20Statement/Definition%20of%20Giftedness%20%282019%29.pdf.
Prof. Sam Vaknin. (2020, September 19). Narcissistic
Buffet: Answering Your Questions (Well, Sort of) [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHeS8fMsoE.
RICHARD GRANNON. (2018, September 12). THE SAM VAKNIN
INTERVIEW – HOW NARCISSISM IS FORMED IN A CHILD GENIUS & THE HIVE MIND [Video].
YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W89fG8220D8.
Smashwords. (2014, October 19). Interview with Sam Vaknin. https://www.smashwords.com/interview/samvaknin.
Vaknin, S. (n.d.a). Sam Vaknin’s Instagram Epigrams – Page 2.
samvaknin.tripod. https://samvak.tripod.com/instagramvaknin2.html.
Vaknin, S. (n.d.b). Sam Vaknin’s Instagram Epigrams – Page 3.
samvaknin.tripod. https://samvak.tripod.com/instagramvaknin3.html.
Vaknin, S. (n.d.c). Sam Vaknin’s Instagram Epigrams – Page 4.
samvaknin.tripod. https://samvak.tripod.com/instagramvaknin4.html.
Vaknin, S. (n.d.d). Sam Vaknin’s Instagram Epigrams – Page 5.
samvaknin.tripod. https://samvak.tripod.com/instagramvaknin5.html.
Vaknin, S. (n.d.e). Sam Vaknin’s Instagram Epigrams – Page 7.
samvaknin.tripod. https://samvak.tripod.com/instagramvaknin7.html.
vakninsamnarcissist. (2018, June 13). [Prof. Vaknin provides some
biographical information on IQ test scores]. Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj_r-KaAckn/?hl=en.
Footnotes
[1] Vaknin (2018) in
Instagram stated, “My IQ was tested every time I got myself into serious
trouble: at age 9 (result: 185), in the army (180), & in prison by an
orthodox religious psychologist who made me his pet project (190). There are
only 60 people in the world with IQ 185 & only 7 with IQ 190. It gets
pretty lonely pretty fast. Being the sadistic asshole that I am, I am fond of
saying that the gap in IQ between me & the average human is far bigger than
the difference between that human & an orangutan (or a chimpanzee).” See
vakninsamnarcissist (2018).
[2] “Sam Vaknin’s
Instagram Epigrams – Page 2” states:
At the age of 9, I was sent to study in the
Technion – Israel’s leading technological university. I have been diagnosed
with 180 IQ. It was my lowest score in 3 IQ tests I have taken over the
decades. There started my love affair with physics…
…At a very early age I discovered that I lack
the most basic life and social skills. I had only one thing going for me: my
formidable intellect (there are only 6 other people in the whole wide world
with my IQ). So, I deployed it to construct a shelter, a bubble, replete with
its own rigid rules and defenses intended to shield me from the
life-threatening hurt that the world was inflicting on me daily. This bubble
was a self-constructed mental asylum with me as the sole inmate…
…Women also feel inferior & inadequate
faced with my 190 IQ.
See Vaknin (n.d.a).
[3] “Sam Vaknin’s
Instagram Epigrams – Page 3” states:
These are for lesser mortals with an IQ score
inferior to my stratospheric 190.
See Vaknin (n.d.b).
[4] “Sam Vaknin’s
Instagram Epigrams – Page 4” states:
There were two of us. I was not alone inside my
body. Physiologically, I was supposed to be twins: I have two urethras, two
sets of teeth, and, at an IQ of 185, probably double the brain. It’s as though,
denied their birth, this duo haunts me, an inbound, coupled poltergeist…
… My IQ – 190 – is literally off any
known chart. There are only 8 people in the entire world with this level of
intelligence and I am one of them.
I used to be so proud of this fact. Now I realize that I am cursed. My IQ is a
rare incurable disease…
See Vaknin (n.d.c).
[5] “Sam Vaknin’s
Instagram Epigrams – Page 5” states:
I have 190 IQ and I make sure that my
interlocutors are well appraised of this daunting fact…
See Vaknin (n.d.d).
[6] “Sam Vaknin’s
Instagram Epigrams – Page 7” states:
So, I harnessed my formidable intellect – all
190 IQ points of it – to write my user’s manual…
…After all, how does one succeed to not bore to
tears someone with 190 IQ and encyclopedic knowledge?…
…They run away screaming to the waiting arms of
the first man available because they find out that I am a reptile or a computer
simulation or a robot with a brain who is about 10 times more potent than an
average one (fact: I have 190 IQ). It is like being trapped in a futuristic
sci-fi yarn with an alien life form, albeit carbon-based.
See Vaknin (n.d.e).
[7] See Prof. Sam Vaknin
(2020).
[8] “A definition of
Giftedness that Guides Best Practice” (2019) states:
Students with gifts and talents perform – or have the capability to
perform – at higher levels compared to others of the same age, experience, and
environment in one or more domains. They require modification(s) to their
educational experience(s) to learn and realize their potential. Student with
gifts and talents:
• Come from all racial, ethnic, and cultural populations, as well
as all economic strata.
• Require sufficient access to appropriate learning opportunities
to realize their potential.
• Can have learning and processing disorders that require
specialized intervention and accommodation.
• Need support and guidance to develop socially and emotionally as
well as in their areas of talent.
• Require varied services based on their changing needs.
See National Association for Gifted Children (2019).
Previous Electronic ‘Print’ Interviews (Hyperlinks Active for
Titles)
“An Interview with Professor Sam Vaknin on Narcissistic
Personality Disorder”
(In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal: June 22,
2020)
“Interview with Sam Vaknin and Christian Sorensen on
Narcissism”
(News Intervention: June 23, 2020)
“Prof. Sam Vaknin on the Philosophy of Nothingness”
(News Intervention: January 26, 2022)
“Prof. Sam Vaknin on Narcissism in General”
(News Intervention: January 28, 2022)
“Prof. Sam Vaknin on Cold Therapy (New Treatment
Modality)”
(News Intervention: January 30, 2022)
Previous Interviews Read by Prof. Vaknin (Hyperlinks Active for Titles)
“How to Become the REAL YOU (Interview, News
Intervention)”
(Prof. Sam Vaknin: January 26, 2022)
“Insider View on Narcissism: What Makes Narcissist Tick (News Intervention)”
(Prof. Sam Vaknin: January 29, 2022)
Image Credit: Sam Vaknin.